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NeoSwap: Smart auctions for perfect swaps (w/ John Ennis, #founder of NeoSwap) - Solfate Podcast #51

By Solfate

Published on 2024-05-14

Discover how NeoSwap is transforming multi-way trading with AI-powered smart auctions, optimizing value exchange on Solana and beyond.

The notes below are AI generated and may not be 100% accurate. Watch the video to be sure!

NeoSwap: Revolutionizing Asset Swaps with AI-Driven Smart Auctions

In a recent episode of the Solfate podcast, hosts Nick and James sat down with John Ennis, the founder and CEO of NeoSwap, to discuss the innovative platform that's reshaping how we think about asset swaps and value exchange. NeoSwap, an AI-driven swap facilitator, is making waves in the Solana ecosystem and beyond by enabling more efficient and complex transactions involving various types of assets.

What is NeoSwap?

NeoSwap is a platform designed to make assets spendable and provide purchasing power from assets. At its core, NeoSwap facilitates multi-way trading, where complex transactions involving assets and money can be orchestrated efficiently. The platform aims to optimize trades and maximize utility for all parties involved, using advanced algorithms and AI-driven prediction models.

John Ennis, with his background in mathematics, AI, and market research, developed the NeoSwap algorithm to address the inefficiencies in traditional trading systems. The platform is not limited to simple one-to-one swaps or cryptocurrency exchanges. Instead, it opens up possibilities for multi-party transactions where assets of various types can be exchanged in ways that benefit all participants.

The Genesis of NeoSwap

The idea behind NeoSwap has roots in Ennis's childhood experiences. Growing up with a father who was a mathematical psychologist, Ennis was exposed to experiments that explored value exchange and decision-making from an early age. One particular Christmas, when Ennis was about 12, a three-way trade scenario among siblings sparked the initial concept that would eventually evolve into NeoSwap.

Ennis explains, "There was one Christmas... where I had a doll that my sister wanted. And she had a game that my brother wanted. He had some legos that I wanted. There were no pairwise trades available, but there was a three-way trade." This experience got him thinking about the potential of multi-way trading and how, with a bird's eye view, complex trades that benefit everyone could be facilitated.

The Evolution of NeoSwap

The journey from concept to reality was not straightforward. After completing his PhD in differential geometry, Ennis ventured into computational neuroscience, which overlapped significantly with what we now call AI. This background in AI and neural networks laid the foundation for the complex algorithms that power NeoSwap today.

Ennis's career path then led him to market research consultancy, where he gained insights into individual differences in valuation – a key concept in NeoSwap's approach to trading. "What makes commerce happen is that different people value things differently," Ennis notes. This understanding became central to NeoSwap's mission of rearranging ownership in ways that benefit all parties involved.

The Blockchain Breakthrough

While the idea of multi-way trading had been percolating in Ennis's mind for years, it wasn't until the advent of blockchain technology that NeoSwap became truly feasible. Blockchain provides the necessary infrastructure for tracking ownership and facilitating complex trades in a transparent and secure manner.

Ennis realized that blockchain gave them "all the things we need to do what I wanted to do. Because you can look at the blockchain... you can see who owns things at any point in time." This revelation led to the development of NeoSwap as we know it today – a platform that leverages blockchain technology to enable sophisticated multi-party trades.

Smart Auctions: A Core NeoSwap Product

One of NeoSwap's flagship products is the smart auction system. This innovative approach to auctions addresses many of the inefficiencies found in traditional auction formats. In a smart auction, participants can bid on multiple items without the fear of overcommitting or missing out on desired items.

Ennis describes the process: "You settle them in how much you want to spend, you settle them out on how many items you want to win. Now you've got protection. No matter what happens you won't spend more than your budget. Then you can bid on everything." This system allows for more dynamic and efficient auctions, where participants can express their true preferences without the constraints of traditional bidding systems.

The smart auction updates every 60 seconds, showing participants what they would win if the auction ended at that moment. This real-time feedback allows bidders to adjust their strategies and ensures that the final outcome is optimal for all parties involved.

The Starter Pack Finder: Onboarding for Web3 Gaming

Another key product in the NeoSwap ecosystem is the starter pack finder, developed in partnership with Star Atlas, one of the leading games on the Solana blockchain. This tool addresses the common challenge of onboarding new users to Web3 games by helping them acquire the necessary assets to start playing.

The starter pack finder uses NeoSwap's algorithms to scan the secondary market and determine the most cost-effective way to assemble a starter pack that meets the game's requirements. This not only simplifies the onboarding process for new players but also helps maintain a healthy in-game economy by facilitating the circulation of existing assets rather than minting new ones.

The Power of Prediction and On-Chain Commitments

NeoSwap's effectiveness relies heavily on its ability to predict user preferences and facilitate on-chain commitments. By analyzing user behavior and allowing users to set parameters for acceptable trades, NeoSwap can execute complex multi-party transactions even when users are not actively participating.

Ennis emphasizes the importance of on-chain commitments: "The more that you can ask people what they're interested in and get on-chain commitments and that permission to do things when they're not there, the more that opens up the ability to do multi-way trading." This approach allows for a more fluid and efficient marketplace, where trades can be executed automatically based on pre-set conditions.

Blockchain Agnostic, but Solana-Focused

While NeoSwap is designed to be blockchain-agnostic, the platform has found particular success on Solana. Ennis cites several reasons for this, including Solana's high performance, low transaction costs, and vibrant community.

"Solana still has a lot of advantages when it comes to speed and low cost and that kind of thing. Plus, of course, you need an active community. To make this stuff work, you need network effects," Ennis explains. The expressivity of Solana's programming language, Rust, also allows for more complex and efficient smart contracts, which is crucial for implementing NeoSwap's sophisticated algorithms.

The Future of Decentralized Commerce

Ennis's vision for NeoSwap extends beyond simple asset swaps. He sees the platform as a step towards a new type of decentralized commerce, where the exchange of value is not solely dependent on traditional currency systems.

"I think that if you have an economy that's based on an exchange of value and money is used to fill in the value gaps, but it's not the medium of exchange all the time... that economy is much more resistant to centralized power," Ennis argues. This approach could potentially create a more resilient economic system that is less susceptible to the pitfalls of centralized monetary control.

NeoSwap and the Evolution of Currency

The discussion with Ennis also touched on broader themes of currency evolution and the role of blockchain technologies like Bitcoin and Solana in shaping the future of finance. While acknowledging the potential of cryptocurrencies, Ennis emphasizes that NeoSwap's focus is on facilitating commerce and value exchange rather than replacing traditional currencies entirely.

He notes, "I think Bitcoin maxis are way too focused on money and they're not focused enough on commerce. Like, oh, money's just a means to an end." This perspective highlights NeoSwap's unique position in the blockchain ecosystem – not as a replacement for currency, but as a tool to optimize the exchange of value in all its forms.

The Importance of Individual Differences in Valuation

A key insight driving NeoSwap's approach is the recognition of individual differences in how people value assets. Ennis explains, "If everybody values these items the same, then there's no trades. What makes commerce happen is that different people value things differently."

This understanding is crucial to NeoSwap's ability to create value through trades. By identifying situations where assets are more valuable to some individuals than others, the platform can facilitate exchanges that result in a net positive for all parties involved.

Addressing Liquidity Challenges

One of the significant advantages of NeoSwap's approach is its ability to facilitate trades in low-liquidity environments. Ennis shares an example from their early tests on the Stacks blockchain: "More than half of the NFT projects that had sold in our rooms over the course of... a three month kind of pilot... didn't sell a single time on the secondary market during that time period."

This demonstrates NeoSwap's potential to unlock value in illiquid markets by matching complementary interests that might not otherwise find each other through traditional trading mechanisms.

The Role of AI in NeoSwap

Artificial Intelligence plays a crucial role in NeoSwap's functionality. The platform uses AI not just for prediction and matchmaking, but also to optimize the complex multi-party trades it facilitates. Ennis's background in computational neuroscience and AI has been instrumental in developing these capabilities.

"We have prediction models," Ennis explains. "So people talk a lot about, you know, AI, what is AI? And you've got machine learning where, you know, machine learning is for humans is when the performance and some behavior improves with experience." This approach allows NeoSwap to continually improve its ability to match trades and predict user preferences.

Scalability and Performance

A common concern with complex trading systems is their ability to scale. Ennis addresses this, noting that for smart auctions, they can guarantee optimal solutions for up to 100 items and 500 people. Beyond that, heuristics come into play, but even then, the results are significantly better than traditional auction methods.

"Once you start to get in 2000s, he has a lot of tricks that can help us to keep going further and further. But once you get in to thousands of items, tens of thousands of people, then you're in a situation where it could be the case that the volume to the seller is only 95% of what it would be if you had a magic machine that just knew the answer," Ennis explains. However, he emphasizes that even this 95% efficiency is far superior to traditional auction methods.

The Potential Impact on Global Commerce

Ennis's vision for NeoSwap extends beyond just facilitating trades on blockchain networks. He sees the potential for this technology to fundamentally change how global commerce operates. By reducing the reliance on pure currency transactions and enabling more direct exchanges of value, NeoSwap could contribute to a more resilient and efficient global economy.

"I think as gradually these ideas find their way out into the world. And you have supply chain. You have international trade happening where assets are moving around and you just don't need as much currency. I think that's the ultimate solution," Ennis posits. This could lead to a more decentralized and robust economic system that is less susceptible to manipulation by centralized authorities.

NeoSwap's Roadmap and Future Developments

Looking to the future, Ennis outlines several exciting developments for NeoSwap. One of the upcoming features is a matchmaking product for NFT traders. This system will allow users to express their goals – which NFTs they're looking to sell and which collections they want to enter – and then match them with others who have complementary interests.

"We can actually provide substantial savings that right now, if you take an NFT and you sell it into the bids and then you buy it floor, you're crossing the spread twice. And you're losing a lot of money in doing so. But if we can match make you with people who have complimentary interest, we can save you a lot of money," Ennis explains. Importantly, this system will still pay royalties to creators, saving money through efficient matchmaking rather than by circumventing royalty payments.

The Role of NeoSwap in a Changing Economic Landscape

As the conversation touched on broader economic themes, including the potential impact of AI on scarcity, Ennis positioned NeoSwap as a tool that could remain relevant even in a rapidly changing economic landscape. He argues that as long as there are differences in how people value assets, there will be a need for efficient systems to facilitate exchanges.

"Are we going to go into a post scarcity world? And these tools won't be needed at all. That's a very interesting topic. I don't quite see it. I feel like there are always are going to be competing interests, right? There's always going to have to be some sort of settlement of competing interests," Ennis muses. This perspective underscores the potential long-term relevance of NeoSwap's approach to value exchange.

The Importance of Decentralized Tools for Commerce

One of Ennis's core motivations is to create tools for commerce that are accessible to everyone. He envisions a future where the matchmaking capabilities of NeoSwap are fully deployed on-chain, running on decentralized computers that anyone can access.

"What we want is the actual matchmaking to be something that everybody has access to. And that's something that is really important to me," Ennis states. This aligns with the broader ethos of decentralization in the blockchain space, aiming to create systems that are not controlled by any single entity but are instead accessible to all.

NeoSwap's Impact on Market Efficiency

Throughout the discussion, it became clear that NeoSwap has the potential to significantly increase market efficiency across various asset classes. By enabling multi-way trades and reducing the friction associated with traditional trading methods, NeoSwap could unlock value that is currently trapped due to market inefficiencies.

Ennis cites research showing that in some simulations, these tools could double the trade volume of a secondary market. While these are theoretical results based on perfect information, they highlight the potential impact of NeoSwap's approach to trading and value exchange.

The Intersection of NeoSwap and Solana

While NeoSwap is designed to be blockchain-agnostic, its current focus on Solana highlights the synergies between the two technologies. Solana's high-performance blockchain provides the ideal infrastructure for NeoSwap's complex trading algorithms, allowing for rapid execution of trades and real-time updates to auctions.

The partnership with Star Atlas, a leading game on Solana, also demonstrates how NeoSwap can integrate seamlessly with other projects in the Solana ecosystem. This integration potential could lead to a more interconnected and efficient marketplace for digital assets on Solana.

Addressing the Challenges of Traditional Auctions

NeoSwap's smart auction system addresses several key challenges associated with traditional auction formats. In conventional auctions, bidders often hold back on early items to save money for later lots, or they limit their bidding to avoid winning more items than they can afford. NeoSwap's approach eliminates these inefficiencies by allowing bidders to express their true preferences across all items without fear of overcommitment.

This system not only benefits buyers but also maximizes returns for sellers. By enabling more active and honest bidding, smart auctions can achieve higher overall sale prices while ensuring that items are allocated to those who value them most.

The Potential for Real-World Asset Tokenization

While much of the discussion focused on digital assets, Ennis also highlighted the potential for NeoSwap to facilitate trades of tokenized real-world assets. This could include anything from collectibles like whiskey or trading cards to more substantial assets like real estate or commodities.

The ability to efficiently trade fractional ownership of real-world assets could open up new investment opportunities and increase liquidity in traditionally illiquid markets. While Ennis notes that this market is still relatively small, he sees significant potential for growth in this area.

NeoSwap's Role in Building a Resilient Economy

One of the most intriguing aspects of NeoSwap's vision is its potential to contribute to a more resilient economic system. By reducing reliance on pure currency transactions and enabling more direct exchanges of value, NeoSwap could help create an economy that is less susceptible to the pitfalls of centralized monetary control.

Ennis argues that an economy based on direct value exchange, with money used only to fill in gaps, would be more resistant to inflationary pressures and other economic distortions. This aligns with broader conversations in the blockchain space about creating more stable and equitable economic systems.

The Future of NeoSwap and Decentralized Commerce

As the interview concluded, Ennis expressed excitement about the future of NeoSwap and invited listeners to join in testing new features. He sees NeoSwap as being on the cusp of significant growth, with ongoing experiments refining the platform's capabilities.

The vision of NeoSwap extends beyond just facilitating trades to potentially reshaping how we think about commerce and value exchange in a digital age. As blockchain technology continues to evolve and gain adoption, platforms like NeoSwap could play a crucial role in creating more efficient, fair, and resilient economic systems.

In conclusion, NeoSwap represents an innovative approach to asset swaps and value exchange, leveraging AI and blockchain technology to create more efficient markets. As the platform continues to develop and expand its offerings, it has the potential to significantly impact how we conduct commerce in both digital and real-world environments. With its focus on Solana and partnerships with leading projects like Star Atlas, Neo

Swap is well-positioned to play a key role in the evolving landscape of decentralized finance and digital asset management.

Facts + Figures

  • NeoSwap is an AI-driven swap facilitator that enables multi-way trading of various assets.
  • The platform was founded by John Ennis, who has a background in mathematics, AI, and market research.
  • NeoSwap's smart auction system can handle up to 100 items and 500 people with guaranteed optimal solutions.
  • In simulations, NeoSwap's tools have shown the potential to double the trade volume of a secondary market.
  • During a three-month pilot on the Stacks blockchain, more than half of the NFT projects that sold through NeoSwap's rooms didn't sell a single time on the secondary market during the same period.
  • NeoSwap has developed a partnership with Star Atlas, one of the biggest games on Solana, to create a starter pack finder tool.
  • The platform is blockchain-agnostic but has found particular success on Solana due to its speed, low costs, and active community.
  • NeoSwap's algorithms can potentially facilitate trades with just 10% of the liquidity required in traditional markets.
  • The company raised $500,000 in funding in April/May 2022, just before the crypto market downturn.
  • NeoSwap has run hundreds of smart auctions, including for Bitcoin ordinals during the ordinal bull run.
  • The platform has facilitated auctions for various assets, including whiskey, Magic: The Gathering cards, and NFTs.
  • NeoSwap is developing a new product called Collection Swap for matchmaking NFT trades across different collections.
  • The company is actively seeking testers for its new features and developments.

Questions Answered

What is NeoSwap?

NeoSwap is an AI-driven platform that facilitates multi-way trading of various assets. It uses advanced algorithms to optimize trades and maximize utility for all parties involved in a transaction. The platform aims to make assets more spendable and provide purchasing power from assets by enabling complex exchanges that go beyond simple one-to-one swaps.

How does NeoSwap's smart auction system work?

NeoSwap's smart auction system allows participants to bid on multiple items simultaneously without fear of overcommitment. Users set their total budget and the maximum number of items they want to win. The system updates every 60 seconds, showing what each participant would win if the auction ended at that moment. This allows for dynamic bidding and ensures optimal outcomes for both buyers and sellers.

What advantages does NeoSwap offer over traditional trading methods?

NeoSwap offers several advantages over traditional trading methods. It can facilitate trades in low-liquidity environments, enable multi-party transactions that are not possible with simple pairwise trades, and potentially double the trade volume of a secondary market. The platform also reduces the need to cross bid-ask spreads multiple times, saving money for traders.

Why has NeoSwap focused on Solana?

While NeoSwap is designed to be blockchain-agnostic, it has found particular success on Solana due to several factors. Solana offers high speed, low transaction costs, and an active community, which are crucial for NeoSwap's operations. Additionally, Solana's programming language, Rust, allows for more complex and efficient smart contracts, which is beneficial for implementing NeoSwap's sophisticated algorithms.

How does NeoSwap contribute to a more resilient economic system?

NeoSwap contributes to a more resilient economic system by reducing reliance on pure currency transactions and enabling more direct exchanges of value. This approach could create an economy that is less susceptible to centralized monetary control and inflationary pressures. By facilitating efficient value exchange across various types of assets, NeoSwap aims to create a more robust and decentralized commerce system.

What is the starter pack finder tool developed by NeoSwap for Star Atlas?

The starter pack finder is a tool developed by NeoSwap in partnership with Star Atlas, a leading game on Solana. It helps new players acquire the necessary assets to start playing the game by scanning the secondary market and determining the most cost-effective way to assemble a starter pack. This tool simplifies the onboarding process for new players and helps maintain a healthy in-game economy.

How does NeoSwap use AI in its operations?

NeoSwap uses AI for prediction and matchmaking, as well as to optimize complex multi-party trades. The platform employs machine learning techniques to improve its performance as it processes more data. This allows NeoSwap to continually enhance its ability to match trades and predict user preferences, leading to more efficient and beneficial transactions for all parties involved.

What future developments are planned for NeoSwap?

NeoSwap is developing several new features and products. These include a matchmaking system for NFT traders called Collection Swap, which will allow users to express their goals for selling and acquiring NFTs across different collections. The platform is also working on fully deploying its matchmaking capabilities on-chain, making them accessible to everyone. Additionally, NeoSwap is exploring applications in tokenized real-world assets and seeking to expand its partnerships within the Solana ecosystem.

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